. >> i think president needs to be a bill oprah and clinton, watch the game films from bill clinton the way he talked to the young fearch woman in 1982, he embraced inner, where george senior, yes, where george seen wrote was saying i don't think you know what the word debt means or deficit, it was like he was questioning her competence with the language instead of saying let me help you. and bill clinton says let me help you, i have people in a small state where somebody is in trouble we know it and know it personally and i will know you personally if i am president, it was chillingly good because it was bill clinton at the best and i hope the president exploits his real human ability, on the stage when they have that kind of a town meeting format where you can meet real people, romney was excellent by the way in bringing up examples of people he has met but of course they were references to people, you don't have to see them interact with him, we don't know if he met these people, he probably did, it is his words he caught on to their needs. >> rose: you mentioned romney early on made